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 Post subject: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:36 am 
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Hi:
Further to my post http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic39-34.html" it was suggested I start a thread for car definitions, so here it is. The current definitions are based on those found in Airboy's spreadsheet.
Please provide corrections or new car's and I'll add them to the source in the future.

* When you download these files save them in the location where your logger definitions are stored.
not in the RomRaider default installation directory
The defaults are:
32bit: "C:\Program Files\RomRaider\"
64bit: "C:\Program Files (x86)\RomRaider\"
Linux: "/home/<user>/RomRaider/"
Mac: "/Users/<user>/RomRaider/"


Edit 01: Feb. 9, new cars_def.xml in new format attached. Updated the jar file in my Road Dyno post (link above ^)
Edit 02: Feb. 11, new cars_def.xml including tires sizes (incomplete)
Edit 03: Feb. 17, corrections, cars_def.xml including tires sizes (incomplete)
Edit 04: Mar. 19, additions & corrections
Edit 05: Mar. 28, additions of Forester XT and 07 Legacy 2.5i
Edit 06: Apr. 02, additions of 07 Impreza 2.5i
Edit 07: Apr. 20, added 01-05 JDM STi info
Edit 08: Jun. 01, added 07 LGT
Edit 09: Jun. 04, fixed a bad entry
Edit 10: Jul. 03, Added 07 OB 2.5i info
Edit 11: Dec. 13, Added 2011 Sti and WRX
Edit 12: Jan. 26, Added 03 EDM Legacy B4 2.0GT
Edit 13: Jan. 28, Updated 03 EDM Legacy B4 2.0GT 5MT to 03 E/JDM Legacy B4 2.0GT 5MT
Edit 14: Nov. 03, Added 06 ADM Forester 2.5L 5MT

* When you download these files save them in the location where your logger definitions are stored.
not in the RomRaider default installation directory
The defaults are:
32bit: "C:\Program Files\RomRaider\"
64bit: "C:\Program Files (x86)\RomRaider\"
Linux: "/home/<user>/RomRaider/"
Mac: "/Users/<user>/RomRaider/"


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cars_def.xml [46.95 KiB]
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cars_def.dtd [793 Bytes]
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* When you download these files save them in the location where your logger definitions are stored.


Last edited by dschultz on Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:29 pm, edited 16 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:20 am 
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Here are a couple more for 07 ADM STi:

Code:
<car>
<type>07 ADM STi (3rd)</type>
<carmass>3295</carmass>
<dragcoeff>0.33</dragcoeff>
<rollcoeff>0.015</rollcoeff>
<frontalarea>22</frontalarea>
<gearratio>1.521</gearratio>
<finalratio>3.9</finalratio>
<transmission>manual</transmission>
</car>

<car>
<type>07 ADM STi (4th)</type>
<carmass>3295</carmass>
<dragcoeff>0.33</dragcoeff>
<rollcoeff>0.015</rollcoeff>
<frontalarea>22</frontalarea>
<gearratio>1.137</gearratio>
<finalratio>3.9</finalratio>
<transmission>manual</transmission>
</car>

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Current Engine: EJ207
Current Mods: X-Force 3" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Pod, RomRaider/ECUFlash Tune
Current Power: 248kw@wheels (332whp)


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:34 am 
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I notice in your definitions you have added the ability to list all gears - but in RR logger you can not select any of the gears. Will you be adding a drop-down so you can select the gear used as well?

Otherwise, I will have to create multiple car categories in the def for each gear, which will just bloat the def file.

Leslie

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Current Car: 2002 ADM WRX STi
Current Engine: EJ207
Current Mods: X-Force 3" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Pod, RomRaider/ECUFlash Tune
Current Power: 248kw@wheels (332whp)


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:17 am 
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I just added more cars to the def file rather then post the code. I also took the liberty of listing each car type based on year. I have attached the car_def.xml file to this post (attachment removed - new defs attached to OP).

Car types now supported:
  • 02 WRX (3rd)
  • 02 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 02 ADM Sti (3rd)
  • 02 ADM Sti (4th)
  • 03 WRX (3rd)
  • 03 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 04 WRX (3rd)
  • 04 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 04 WRX wgn Auto (2nd)
  • 04 WRX wgn Auto (3rd)
  • 04 ADM STi (3rd)
  • 04 ADM STi (4th)
  • 04 STI (4th)
  • 05 WRX (3rd)
  • 05 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 05 ADM WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 05 ADM STi (3rd)
  • 05 ADM STi (4th)
  • 05 STI (4th)
  • 05 OBXT Ltd wgn (3rd)
  • 05 OBXT Ltd wgn (4th)
  • 06 LGT (3rd)
  • 06 ADM 2.0R (2nd)
  • 06 ADM 2.0R (3rd)
  • 06 ADM 2.0R Auto (2nd)
  • 06 ADM 2.0R Auto (3rd)
  • 06 ADM WRX (2nd)
  • 06 ADM WRX (3rd)
  • 06 ADM STi (3rd)
  • 06 ADM STi (4th)
  • 06 WRX (3rd)
  • 06 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 06 STI (4th)
  • 07 WRX (3rd)
  • 07 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 07 STi (3rd)
  • 07 STi (4th)
  • 07 ADM STi (3rd)
  • 07 ADM STi (4th)
  • 07 ADM Liberty GT Auto (2nd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty GT Auto (3rd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty GT Spec.B Auto (2nd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty GT Spec.B Auto (3rd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty GT Spec.B (3rd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty GT Spec.B (4th)
  • 07 ADM Liberty 3.0R Auto (2nd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty 3.0R Auto (3rd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty 3.0R Spec.B Auto (2nd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty 3.0R Spec.B Auto (3rd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty 3.0R Spec.B (3rd)
  • 07 ADM Liberty 3.0R Spec.B (4th)
  • 08 WRX sdn (3rd)
  • 08 WRX wgn (3rd)
  • 08 STi (3rd)
  • 08 STi (4th)
  • 09 WRX (2nd)
  • 09 WRX (3rd)
  • 09 STi (3rd)
  • 09 STi (4th)
  • 09 ADM STi Spec.R (3rd)
  • 09 ADM STi Spec.R (4th)


Leslie

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Current Car: 2002 ADM WRX STi
Current Engine: EJ207
Current Mods: X-Force 3" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Pod, RomRaider/ECUFlash Tune
Current Power: 248kw@wheels (332whp)


Last edited by wrxsti-l on Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:52 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:47 am 
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wrxsti-l wrote:
I notice in your definitions you have added the ability to list all gears - but in RR logger you can not select any of the gears. Will you be adding a drop-down so you can select the gear used as well?

Yes I was doing a little work to add a gear select box. I just need to figure out how to change its contents from car to car.
So if you want to add cars then use the new format one tag for each gear per car.

I also have to fix a problem were you can't do two consecutive runs without a logger shutdown and restart.
Thanks.

Edit: gear select now active and fixed the consecutive runs problem, get the new jar from the link in my OP.


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:47 pm 
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dschultz wrote:
Edit: gear select now active and fixed the consecutive runs problem, get the new jar from the link in my OP.

Awesome, I'll try it out. Edit: Just noticed a small bug. When the definition for a car type only has info for one or two gears (ie. 3rd and/or 4th), the drop down gear selection will list it as having upto that gear and provide options to select gears not available (ie. if there is only <gearratio3>, it will have 3 gears available to select - 1,2,3 - but it should only list 3rd as 1st and 2nd are not available for that car type).

Perhaps you could add tyre settings to the definition too, so that it automatically fills out the wheel details (like how weight works). The user can always change it if they have a different tyre/wheel combo.

I was thinking something like so (added to the end of this car type's def):

Code:
<car>
<type>06 ADM STi (3rd)</type>
<carmass>3295</carmass>
<dragcoeff>0.33</dragcoeff>
<rollcoeff>0.015</rollcoeff>
<frontalarea>22</frontalarea>
<gearratio>1.521</gearratio>
<gearratio1>3.636</gearratio1>
<gearratio2>2.235</gearratio2>
<gearratio3>1.521</gearratio3>
<gearratio4>1.137</gearratio4>
<gearratio5>0.891</gearratio5>
<gearratio6>0.707</gearratio6>
<finalratio>3.9</finalratio>
<transmission>manual</transmission>
<tirewidth>225</tirewidth>
<tireaspect>45</tireaspect>
<wheelsize>17</wheelsize>
</car>


Also, did you manage to work out how to implement altitude based on atmospheric pressure (as per my post in the other thread)?

Cheers,
Leslie



Edit: Attachment removed, changes included in def file attached to first post.

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Current Car: 2002 ADM WRX STi
Current Engine: EJ207
Current Mods: X-Force 3" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Pod, RomRaider/ECUFlash Tune
Current Power: 248kw@wheels (332whp)


Last edited by wrxsti-l on Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:40 pm 
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wrxsti-l wrote:
Just noticed a small bug. When the definition for a car type only has info for one or two gears (ie. 3rd and/or 4th), the drop down gear selection will list it as having upto that gear and provide options to select gears not available (ie. if there is only <gearratio3>, it will have 3 gears available to select - 1,2,3 - but it should only list 3rd as 1st and 2nd are not available for that car type).

Yes it is a bit of a bug, but I didn't have time to fix it. The lower gears not in the def will be populated with a 0.001 ratio. You can still do the run and collect the data, then after select the correct gear and interpolate. Then the graph will turn out correct. Basically you can change any parameter after the run and re-plot, the raw data is unaffected.

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Perhaps you could add tyre settings to the definition too

The wheels should be easy. Do you have a database of those?

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did you manage to work out how to implement altitude

Actually it is easier then that as I need pressure for my calculations so I can get that direct from the Atmospheric Pressure Logger parameter.

Thanks for testing for me.
Dale


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:15 pm 
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dschultz wrote:
Yes it is a bit of a bug, but I didn't have time to fix it. The lower gears not in the def will be populated with a 0.001 ratio. You can still do the run and collect the data, then after select the correct gear and interpolate. Then the graph will turn out correct. Basically you can change any parameter after the run and re-plot, the raw data is unaffected.

It shouldn't matter now anyhoo as I have added complete gear ratio for each car type in my last car_def revision (attached above) :)

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The wheels should be easy. Do you have a database of those?

No database per se, but I have details for most Subaru vehicles in one form or another. Subaru pretty much only used a few different sizes for all their vehicles, so it will not be too much effort.

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Actually it is easier then that as I need pressure for my calculations so I can get that direct from the Atmospheric Pressure Logger parameter.

ah cool beans.

Quote:
Thanks for testing for me.
Dale

np at all Dale. Your work saves me time in excel later, so I am more than happy to help out however I can to get this working bug free :)

Leslie

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Current Car: 2002 ADM WRX STi
Current Engine: EJ207
Current Mods: X-Force 3" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Pod, RomRaider/ECUFlash Tune
Current Power: 248kw@wheels (332whp)


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:13 am 
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Added some tire sizes for USDM models.
If anyone has additional info please let me know.
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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:19 pm 
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Updated def, now at version 3.


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:46 pm 
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Updated def, now at version 4.


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:11 pm 
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Great work guys!!

If I could request that Foresters get added too, that would be great, I usually do runs in 2nd gear with Airboy's spreadsheet in my 05 USDM FXT 4EAT

Here are the specs I have been using off of cars101.com

2nd gear ratio: 1.545
Final drive ratio: 4.44
curb weight: 3270

I use the default cd and crr, but the area is larger I believe, I've been using 26 sqft(rough estimate)

Also the tire size is 225/60R16, but it looks like I can input that in on the tab, correct? same with curb weight?

If you need some logs, I'm more than willing to help

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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:52 pm 
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I created an entry in your xml file for my 2.5i and I just wanted to confirm if you knew if these numbers were right. I've been using it and I'm getting about what I expected I just want to make sure I didn't put a wrong number in...

Code:
<car>
   <type>07 USDM 2.5i 5MT</type>
   <carmass>3016</carmass>
   <finalratio>3.9</finalratio>
   <rollcoeff>0.015</rollcoeff>
   <dragcoeff>0.33</dragcoeff>
   <frontalarea>22</frontalarea>
   <transmission>manual</transmission>
   <gearratio1>3.454</gearratio1>
   <gearratio2>2.062</gearratio2>
   <gearratio3>1.448</gearratio3>
   <gearratio4>1.088</gearratio4>
   <gearratio5>0.780</gearratio5>
   <tirewidth>205</tirewidth>
   <tireaspect>55</tireaspect>
   <wheelsize>16</wheelsize>
</car>


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:26 am 
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Hi:
I get most info from here: http://www.cars101.com/subaru_archives.html

It looks like your curb weight is a bit off unless you weighed it.
Sedan: 3270lbs
Sedan SE: 3305lbs

It also says your tires should be 205/50 R17 unless you changed them on your car.


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 Post subject: Re: Logger Road Dyno Car Definitions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:28 am 
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subarutech77 wrote:
If I could request that Foresters get added too,


Soon :wink:


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