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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:43 am 
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The Toyota 86 ECU(current public release model) is still a Subaru ECU. Not sure if the programming has changed between 86 and BRZ though.

I have an insider who is a Toyota Dealer, Toyota have their own 86 diagnostics equipment as well as 'flashing equipment' for ROM updates.

Also, the new Legacy GT has an FA20 Turbo which has the same ECU as the 86/BRZ

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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:11 am 
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Jochen_145 wrote:
So ECUtek manage to re-map a stock car ?
Yes.
This shop is about an hour from me.
http://www.ottawasubaru.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33108


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:41 am 
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some of the ecutek development/testing have been done here in quebec by lachute on the br-z.

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dschultz wrote:
Jochen_145 wrote:
So ECUtek manage to re-map a stock car ?
Yes.
This shop is about an hour from me.
http://www.ottawasubaru.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33108


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:45 pm 
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throttlehappy wrote:
I have an insider who is a Toyota Dealer, Toyota have their own 86 diagnostics equipment as well as 'flashing equipment' for ROM updates.


Ok, this sounds like a Subaru diagnosic is used for Toyota too
Good to know, but if it didn't respond to SSM init request over CAN, maybe we got our next protocol, or just the CAN-ID of car/diagnic tool has chanced.

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Also, the new Legacy GT has an FA20 Turbo which has the same ECU as the 86/BRZ

I expact the BRZ ECU in the FA20 Turbo too, but in both cases I hoped we got a SH7059..

So on the other hand, BRZ will be the start-up to next generation Impreza WRX-STI.
That´s the reason, why I think BRZ support of RomRaider is a importend part

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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:12 pm 
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Hoping to get the handshake protocol for Subaru sorted this week... 'sniffing' a BRZ as soon as I can drive it.

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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:52 am 
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No, on the contrary. I see romraider picking up where ecuflash left off. It shouldn't too much for this highly intelligent community to work out how to implement general Subaru flashing, then extend it as new models come along.


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:51 pm 
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i have an FR-S. what can i do to help?


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:09 am 
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Can RomRaider Editor SSM Test App initiate a ROM download? I doubt it but did not have time to test.

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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:54 pm 
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No, it can only read addresses allowed by the ECU via the SSM connection.
Only some ROM and some RAM addresses are allowed.


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:39 pm 
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Calibration area is usually open for reading.
RAM area is usually open for reading.
Learning data and stack area are usually closed for writing thru SSM otherwise the code maybe routinely hacked.


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:36 pm 
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Sorry to bump a dead thread but I was told by someone that in order to write to the brz ecu the car must be in test mode. Apparently there is a fuse that must be jumpered under the hood in order to put the car into test mode. Has anyone tried dumping the rom with the fuse jumpered?


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:48 am 
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Mart wrote:
anyone have experienced with that?
http://www.xcar360.com/sh705x-programmer.html


bump..

Just to re-activate this question..
Does someone allready ?

It looks like a china clone, witch is awailible starting at 85$ without shipping.
The SH70xx-programmer should have the same software like the piasini V4.1..

so any experiments ?

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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:36 am 
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Access the tune the same way the dealers do :)

Kernel is the issue with EcuFlash, can be done though.

Also, it for some reason makes the Tactrix hate talking to 16bit ECU's :(

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Black N14 SSS Pulsar(with a 3.5L V6 Altima swap) getting an EZ30R ECU


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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:10 pm 
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throttlehappy wrote:
Access the tune the same way the dealers do :)


I think this is the way ECUTek will handle the BRZ ?

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Kernel is the issue with EcuFlash, can be done though.

Same as Diesel-ECU.

Subaru Diesel Crew build der theire own kernel to be able to read / wirte the Denso Diesel.

Hopefully ECUflash will restart devellopment and build a new kernal for several Subaru ECUs

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 Post subject: Re: Attempting to pull the rom on a BRZ Friday night.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:59 pm 
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Wow lot's has happened since this ...

I apologize for not pulling the rom when i said I would. I got really busy with a Ill wife.


I had read that people were using some Diesel software to pull the rom.

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