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nich0lai
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Post subject: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:32 am |
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Sorry if this is obvious, is it really just as easy as clamping the standard lm-1 sensor to the tailpipe?
Thanks.
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Turbo_Mike
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Post subject: Re: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:51 pm |
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Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:34 am Posts: 835 Location: Queens, NY / Dudley, MA
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yes sir, thats how they do it on the dyno...
_________________ 03 WRX - 2.3L stroker, all the goodies 04 STi 6-speed, R180, brembos Perrin GT35R, 44mm EWG
Rom Raider Development Tester Open Source Tuner
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wrxsti-l
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Post subject: Re: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:58 am |
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One of THESE and one of THESE is what you want for temp LM-1 work  Edit: And one of THESE.
_________________ Current Mods: X-Force 3" "Twin-Dump" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Intake & Pod, RomRaider "Mickeyd2005" Tune. Current Power: 224kw@wheels (300whp)
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Paul_P1
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Post subject: Re: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:50 pm |
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Stupid question probably, but whats the difference between the LC-1 and LM-1?
_________________ JDM STi Spec C WR LTD - 318/356 Stage 1 EDM MY05 WRX - 208/220 - Stage 0.5(;))
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wrxsti-l
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Post subject: Re: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:52 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:49 am Posts: 287 Location: Australia
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With the LM-1, it has a hand-control with LCD that displays the WB02 AFR and can log upto 6channels of data. The LM-1 has just been superseeded by the new LM-2. With the LC-1, you have to connect to a laptop via the serial cable to see the logged wb02 AFR. The LC-1 is basically the LM-1 without the hand-control (ie. sensor, lm-1 module, cables - but no hand-control). LM-1:  LC-1:  New, LM-2 (hand-control pictured): 
_________________ Current Mods: X-Force 3" "Twin-Dump" TBE Exhaust, GCG "bolt-on" GT3076R, APS 3" Hard Turbo Inlet, Short Ram Intake & Pod, RomRaider "Mickeyd2005" Tune. Current Power: 224kw@wheels (300whp)
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nfn15037
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Post subject: Re: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:02 pm |
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Keep in mind that there will be some latency as well as some error in the measurement itself with the WB02 at the tailpipe.
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benw
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Post subject: Re: How do you temporarily install a wideband? Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:03 am |
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I use the Innovate tailpipe clamp with great luck. It is a little finicky to clamp onto some mufflers but always works for me in the end.
I initially used an LC-1 that I custom wired to a cigarette lighter adapter. However, keeping all the wires neat and tidy, along with the 9V battery (mandatory when moving the kit around to different cars) was a pain. I sold it and got an LM-1, which is much easier. I took a stainless gun case, the kind with the sectioned foam pieces, and made a custom carrying rig for my gear. It takes all of 5 minutes to hook up to a car.
I've noticed the delay when tuning. It's most noticeable at engine speeds below 4000RPM, above that it's not so bad. I definitely wouldn't use it to tune tip-in or closed loop fueling, that's much better suited to the stock narrowband sensor. It reads very quickly in the front header location!
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