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altaic
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Post subject: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:08 am |
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Hi all, I'm currently working on porting the Kaffe JVM to the iPhone, and once I'm finished I intend to port RomRaider (using the native UIKit library). I'll post updates here, and undoubtedly a bunch of questions, too.
To that end, one feature I intend to add is DCCD communication (capturing sensor data, reading/reseting DTC, and perhaps far down the line modifying the DCCD behavior) for USDM '06 STI and the like. My plan is to first set up a device to sniff SSM traffic, and take my car to the dealer to have some DTCs cleared. I hope it's as easy as looking at the capture log, noting down the src/dest address, and extrapolating commands, but either way a full session capture should be valuable.
So, the sniffer device and my question... Am I on the right track: wire in a second, out-of-the-way, OBD-II port, hook up a tactrix cable to it and my computer, and whip up a program to capture packets (shamelessly hacked up from RomRaider code)? I'm familiar with network protocols and such over various hardware transports, but not with SSM or even OBD-II for that matter. Pointers much appreciated.
Cheers,
altaic
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:17 pm |
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Interesting... sniffer that is...
Anyway, I'm not that familiar with the iPhone. Does it have an easy way to add a USB device to it?
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altaic
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:38 pm |
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mickeyd2005 wrote: Interesting... sniffer that is...
Anyway, I'm not that familiar with the iPhone. Does it have an easy way to add a USB device to it?
It appears to have on-the-go usb support (usb host/slave); it'd take a bit of tinkering. Bluetooth sould be pretty straightforward, though.
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mickeyd2005
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:58 pm |
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So your sniffer / logger device will be bluetooth? That would be really cool. Then we could port the engiuity logger to windows CE and use our PDAs to log.
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altaic
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:20 am |
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mickeyd2005 wrote: So your sniffer / logger device will be bluetooth? That would be really cool. Then we could port the engiuity logger to windows CE and use our PDAs to log.
Windows CE on a PDA would be significantly easier to port, maybe even trivial. If I had a PDA I'd probably go that route.
Bump for info re. the sniffer. I have a track day on Saturday and I have to have the dealer use the Subaru Select Monitor before then.
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altaic
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:07 am |
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Are any developers about? I could use a hand, so to speak, figuring out the issue with initial connection troubles on *nix based systems. The sniffer is coming along nicely; I should have it hooked up for testing pretty soon. Perhaps it will shed some light on the unreliable connection init.
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Happy_Days
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:21 pm |
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sti robot
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:54 pm |
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I'm a developer and may be able to lend a hand if you are still working on this.
I should have the requisite hardware for this by friday.
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LilJohn
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:53 pm |
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an iPhone port of RomRaider would be awsome, since i have one... but how are we supposed to hook up the usb cable to it?
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sti robot
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:16 am |
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The problem is apple hasn't and won't release the spec of the iphone's dock connector. It's close to the ipod, but not exactly the same. Apple only releases the api and docs for this connector to large companies who enter into large ($$$) agreements with them.
The official apple SDK that people will be able to use is somewhat limited.
The glimmer of hope is Bluetooth. If we can get a bluetooth hookup to the OBD II port we could be set (there are some on the market already, but they are probably not compatible with RomRaider or the subaru select protocol.). I am not sure if the apple api will allow bluetooth access.
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LilJohn
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:34 pm |
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ohh i like the idea of bluetooth, i could be wrong but i think there is support for bluetooth on the jailbroken toolchain.
_________________ 2004 WRX STi (WR Blue)
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pwrx
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:01 pm |
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Anyone ever find a way to log via bluetooth? I'd be very interested in this.  I already have logging of my LC-1 over bluetooth... Eliminating all cables for logging purposes would be amazing. Expecially since then we'd have the ability to log from iphone/windows mobile/etc.
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Jon [in CT]
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:38 am |
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OpenPort 2.0 will support logging without cables and won't require Bluetooth.
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JackANSI
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:35 am |
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I would rather see you do the wireless over wi-fi.. Then us iPod Touch users wouldn't be shut out like apple already does to us 
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sti robot
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Post subject: Re: RomRaider iPhone port, DCCD questions, etc. Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:32 pm |
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WiFi would basically be overkill. All the programming/processing involved in the overhead for both wifi and tcp/ip would require the module sitting in the obd II slot to have more processing power than it needs. Also, there is a bluetooth OBD II setup already out there... see the bottom of this page: http://www.qcontinuum.org/obdgauge/
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