RomRaider

Here's a link to his final post there: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpos ... ostcount=7

Pissed off some stupid moderator in a dumb regional forum?

I don't know. I thought he kind of asked to be banned. He did say good bye in his "We are out" thread.

Maybe gabedude can post here and let us know what happened.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... ?t=1452167

Hmm, I was wondering why gabe stopped posting in his own threads.. thats gay, nasioc is so lame sometimes

the txic forum is ridiculous.

On Nasioc, it seems you have to weed through a bunch of melodramatic crap to get to any useful info. You would think, for example, a forum like proven power bragging would be very technical and interesting to read. But, instead, its something like "Al blew up the 08 STi, that's why he's putting in a new motor, he's a liar", "no he's not you dumbass", "yeah he is, I have it on video", "Al's a hack, he doesn't know s***", "He's one of the best tuners in the country you moron", blah, blah, blah.

Silly boy. Notice that it's in the "NASIOC General" group and not in the "NASIOC Technical" group.

Except that regardless of the category, a lot of threads would be more appropriate in off-topic than general or technical. Maybe it is just too active of a site for the number of moderators they have to deal with it.

You got it. Honestly most people in general dont know a lot about cars or anything technical in general. And there are a s*** of people with subarus that go on nasioc that dont know anything, but cant seem to put a filter on what they post. If more people would read instead of throwing up things like *SUBSCRIBED TITTIWOP*.. it would be a lot better. Because there are a lot of very knowledgable people who have done a lot of cool stuff and have great ideas and intelligence, but they are 1 in 100 over on nazioc...

i think you need to add a zero. or two.

lol agreed, I was trying to be nice

Nabisco has been going downhill for quite some time.

I take it that I'm not the only one who was really, really happy to see this forum back on-line.

:wub:

Well, after trying to vent on IWSTI about it and people from TXIC invading IWSTI once again to discredit me, I will share with you all why I think I was banned here since I cannot anywhere else it seems.

I joined Nasioc in 2001 when I bought one of the first WRXs to hit the shores. I wrote technical articles back when it was i-club. I never received any points until 2007. All of the points came from TXIC regional forum in 2007. This is where it gets interesting.

Subaru of Dallas and Subaru of Plano are sister dealerships and this new guy Squidz works there as the "Performance Specialist". I bought my 07 STI there (SoP). They had about 5 or 6 cars that they sold with bad injectors that would get stuck halfway open (one of them was mine). My engine blew before 3k because of this. I broke it in properly for the first 1k-1500 miles. After that I started to beat on it a bit and every time after I would get done, and the car would cool off, the car would not want to start (stock map still) due to the bad injector and the piston getting glued to the cylinder wall. I made that Stage 0 map that many people ran and had no problems (except one person who was doing vishnu resets at sea level in Florida and the car was used anyway). The only problem with that map was that it slowed down fuel learning (the 07 STI will learn up to -9% LTFT). Everything seemed ok, but there was some odd stuff going on, even on the stock map. Come to find out after analyzing my logs, my water temp was shooting through the roof (240 F) right before it went. I would check my engine bay and the violence in the fuel system had made the FPR's pop out of their rails. At that time, I thought "this cannot be good". I meticulously checked the oil. It looked brand new and never burned a drop. One day after I had driven the car to work pretty hard, it just blew and the CEL came on after I started it (it would not crank at first) leaving work (the piston finally glued itself to the wall and broke). I knew it was blown. Took it to the dealership in Austin and they diagnosed it, it was a bad injector on #4. The tear down revealed no damage to any other cylinder, but #4 was all torn up, crown was missing, etc. Although my receipts do not say that the injector would not flow past 45% DC, I was told this on the phone (my receipts do show a replaced fuel injector and harness). So, yeah I got my shortblock replaced and a new injector was installed under warranty (I could have lemon lawed it). During this time, there was a user of my Stage 0 map that was in Florida doing Vishnu resets and then auto-xing it. Well it blew 2 or 3 pistons. I had about 20-30 people (maybe more and two in Austin who had 0 problems with it for 6k miles before they upgraded) running that map which basically 0'd the O/L C/L delay and a few other tweaks without issue, so I left the map up. Stock boost, stock fuel map, stock timing on that map. The rev limit was upped to 7200 RPM as well. When I got my car back, I decided to repro the issue to see if the car was going lean and running out of fuel. I reproed the same issue on my stage 0 map, the stock map, and a modified version of the stock map that just changed the TAD to 06 STI like values. All 3 maps ran to 113% IDC and the car went lean and missfired if you got on it right after a reset. After these tests, the oil turned black in one day and started to eat oil between changes. I knew I had damaged my second motor already.

Ok, so by this point I was in this position where I was on a mission to simply get a free Stage 1 07 STI map out there before my engine went (my car had officially become a project car obviously). So I got my WBO2 installed in my D/P and went to work. First I datalogged the living snot out of the stock map for my records for 2-3k miles. It was knocking horridly, especially in the 3.8-4.8K range. I got all of that recorded and started on the Stage 1 map. After realizing that the stock fuel system on the stock map is inadequate when you have any D range LTFT at 0 or positive, I got to work on making a leaned out Stage 1 map. I used a variety of fuels, knocked the thing to holy hell at times; the motor took it. Slowly, the engine was consuming more and more oil, but was always within one quart between changes or so. I knew it was a matter of time though. I finished my Stage 1 free maps and the engine was still holding up so I went Stage 2. I had a feeling it would blow at Stage 2. Finally it did after it started consuming even more oil. This time, I accepted the blame as I had modded the car enough and beat on it enough to know that it was not "entirely" Subaru's fault this time. I still suspect that injector #3 (passenger rear) went bad as #3 is the piston with the broken ringland and there was some odd fueling stuff going (sometimes a bit too lean, sometime on target) on before it popped (according to my WB). Even if that is the case, the constant tuning and the reproduction of finding the limits of the stock fuel system I felt were my fault. So I was not going to even try to get warranty work done. I was done dealing with SOA on fixing my STI.

If you follow the "07 STI down in compression thread", you can see me posting in there alot because of what I had found. I had some inside info that SOA knew of these issues already and were dealing with them on a case per case basis. Many stock and modded 07 STIs were blowing up. Bill had given us access to all of the timing tables. We did the timing tests on my car and concluded that advance A&B should be zeroed as it is unpredictable when advance B (which is not effected by IAM) gets added into total timing. I caught this several times (I was using a whole 2 degrees in advance B because I knew it could be an issue). At the same time the Cobb protuner software was missing access to some of the TAD tables and Advance B. Jorge (P&L Motorsports and a long friend of mine on Nasioc) pushed the issue as one of his cutomer's cars blew up. Jorge's tunes do not blow up unless there is something missing in the tuning software. Well there was. Advance B was missing. With collaboration between Bill, Jorge and I we showed Christian at Cobb that there was a missing table. Trey looked into it and found the table and confirmed Bill's findings. So now the argument was (and is still going on), "Do we 0 advance A and B to make it tune like a WRX or do we try and black box test it to see how to use the tables like the s*** stock tune does". I had already tried both ways and I didn't particularly like it when Advance B would just decide to add in my extra 2 degrees at 5K rpm at full throttle. Thank god I had knock correction setup to drop IAM like a bad habit if it knocked. So there is a debate still raging on whether or not to use Advance B and try to tune the 07 STI like the Subaru/Denso engineers designed it (in the Cobb protuner forums as well as elsewhere; some of the top tuners are supporting one method, other top tuners are supporting tuning it like a WRX without issue now). I have some inside knowledge that the 08 STI has abandoned this logic and uses WRX logic, but we will see soon enough for sure. Just looking at some 08 STI logs, you can see the same sawtooth timing between 2-4.4K like the 06-07 WRX does, plus there are no hesitation complaints on the 08 STI (I have rode in one already). The 08 STI also employs a larger fuel pump and has a lower redline now, but the same 550CC topfeeds.

Ok, so this gets everyone on the same page as me. When my engine blew, my friends in Austin helped me pull it. I posted in the TXIC forum about it and then it was open game for the guys connected with SoP in TXIC. Now I had 0 points on Nasioc at this time. Not to say I had not had problems with TXIC in the past in 07, but those points had expired. The argument started that I blew my motor because one top tuner gave his opinion to Squidz that the 07 STI should be tuned using all DA tables. Squidz and his followers then started to attack me in TXIC in my blown motor thread stating it was my tune (It was a modified XPT stage 2 map). The mods were not helpfull in TXIC. I decided to take a break from TXIC, so they kept on posting in there. My wife went to defend our findings about Advance A & B, many sexist comments were made about her and other women, nothing was done by the mods except put her in TO when she called them "fat" and a few other stupid little things (just giving them some of their own medicine). Now by this time I had had enough. I had already brought Squidz and his followers into the 07 STI down in compression thread where protuners and I were refuting all of his "claims" (he knows nothing of the internal workings of the ECU or progrmming, he is a mechanic/tech, not even a tuner). During this time I was trying to work with the mods to express my feelings about the sexism in TXIC and the unfair treatment of my wife by these people. The mods did nothing. Finally I got an answer back that stated she must serve her time in TO. Well, I was not going to have it. So I made a post stating that I am no longer going to post or look at TXIC, but will still participate in the tech forums on Nasioc and use IWSTI for regional stuff. Of course I was pissed, and some of the people from Dallas came over to IWSTI and registered. This person (Shawn, or lackofhp on Nasioc) had been to my house before at a Subaru party. He was considered a friend. He used a different screenname and said he had never met us in person, etc. Then he posted a hypothetical of whether I would stand up to the guys in Dallas if confronted. I gave my typical response that I do not back down IRL. He then went to Nasioc and referenced the thread stating that I was threatening him! Now this same thing had been said before on Nasioc by me with others that I had not met IRL. It was a hypothetical, not a threat, and I never got points for it then. After that they banned both my wife and I.

So in summary, SOA through SoD is trying to discredit our findings IMHO and keep me silent.

After all of this, I feel like I have been shafted. I paid 34,000 for a car that had a hard part problem from the getgo. Then I realized that the stock fuel system can go lean and missfire (pre-ignite) on the stock map under certain conditions. At this point I knew I had a POS on my hands. I still kept my head up and just had planned to rebuild it when it broke. I also planned to post all of this with logs after I had accomplished my goals (one of them being getting my injectors tested by a 3rd party). I literally have no place now to post my technical stuff about Subarus where it will reach a wide audience. All of this has put me through much stress at home and at my job. I could have lemon lawed the first failure and been done with it, bought a used 06 STI and been on my way. I didn't because I wanted to figure out what the issues were with the 07 STI and proper solutions. I at least accomplished that goal but at the price of my reputation, membership on a forum that I have been on since 2001, and access to online tech articles on Nasioc.

I know I sound like an asshole online, but IMHO, my ban was undeserved. I sure hope that the people from SoD do not invade this thread too. If they do, just delete it Jared or ban them. Doing all of this has cost me money and grief. I only did it because I love Subarus and wanted to help out 07 STI owners. I have paid Subaru a total of ~100K in cars and parts (02 WRX, 06 WRX, 07 STI, 06 STI) and I feel betrayed. I am taking a break from all forums other than this one and XPTtuning. At least I can feel somewhat safe from being slandered and bashed here.

BTW, thanks Bill for defending the 07 STI findings against these people. I owe you one.

Gabe

Holy crap dude... I'm sorry for you, keep your head up...

I dont know if you were still around for my posts in your thread in built motor discussion, but I'm going through the same deal with my car right now too.....

Pics:

Casting defect? You decide. This is the rear passenger piston which is #3 IIRC.


Typical because the sparkplug is right at the bottom of the piston. Obviously the flame kernel did not have uniform burn often though.


Not a horrid amount of kncock, the rod bearings show a little wear, but probably that is from the gas in the oil (the oil would get black right away).


No cylinder wall damage. Cylinder wall #3 looks fine as well. Factory cross hatching still visible.


Heads look ok, but have a little wear it seems (probably due to all the gas in the oil). May need some headwork.


More to come.